
Whiners somehow too poor to make use of it despite being flush with cash as mentioned above. Marriage game into other religions? Yeah sure why not? Without Conclave? You might get a claimant once in a blue moon. Hey you know those claimants of Hispania sitting all over the place? Yeah, you can get them, with restrictions. Game apparently is too hard for them to grasp.Ħ. Having default feudal tax makes the game 2x easier. Wonderful for those inrease crown authority attempts. If you want remotely close to comparable default Conclave tax you need to eat a huge permanent opinion hit. With no Conclave all you have is the Desmense. Conclave defaults to medium troops and medium cash. More importantly the lack of it without Conclave. Marry Lombard Princess, farm prosperity, few generations down the line buy a favor and then bam, free kingdom.ĥ.

Get Lombardy easily now as Duke of Sicily. On top of being more in depth interactions with liege, you can even get him to declare war for your claims. Playing as a vassal is easier than before. Except in addition to that they get to pass laws without a vote. People somehow don't realize they start with as much control as the Byz does at the start of the game. Instant and multiple revolts most of the time. Byzantines start with high crown authority in most game starts. Crown Authority being opposite of Council power. Somehow too complex for people to grasp.Baffling.ģ. "Parliament" of incredibly minor vassals, where not even a gold gift is guaranteed to get them to pass the final step of Imperial Administration. Yet we see people complaining as if this stuff was too hard for them. Especially if you are going for Imperial government at Max CA. Up until you get enough won revolt positive modifiers. Marriage NAPs combined with people on the council will generally lock up any form of civil war in your realm to maybe one per generation.Ĭompare this with no Conclave where you will usually get 3-4 over one generation over something. Vassal management is easier and more predictable. To say it is bad though gives off an incompetence vibe.Ĭonclave actually makes the game easier, for those who have a commanding grasp of the game.ġ. If you want to turn it off, that is fine.

It is very worthwhile to talk about player skill when mentioning whether people think Conclave is good or not. I disagree a bit here with judging skill. Which is still more than enough time before the game is over. Something that may have taken 90 years of constant blobbing and truce breaking will now be complete in say, 300. They just require a longer campaign length than before.

All the achievements are still very doable.
